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	<title>Comments on: Exposing doctrinal errors Part 1 – The “Jesus Christ is a Baptist” and the “Baptist brider” heresy</title>
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		<title>By: zigfred</title>
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		<dc:creator>zigfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jun: Yes I agree wth you. After examining the historical records, I&#039;ve made the same conclusion that the Anabaptist arose in the 16th century, not decades after John The Baptist died. Thanks for your inputs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jun: Yes I agree wth you. After examining the historical records, I&#8217;ve made the same conclusion that the Anabaptist arose in the 16th century, not decades after John The Baptist died. Thanks for your inputs.</p>
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		<title>By: zigfred</title>
		<link>http://www.zdiaz.com/2009/09/exposing-doctrinal-errors-part-1-the-jesus-christ-is-a-baptist-and-the-baptist-brider-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-30845</link>
		<dc:creator>zigfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ding: Thanks for your comments. I now pastor &quot;The Master&#039;s Community Fellowship&quot; (www.mastersfellowship.net) which is considered a &quot;Reformed Baptist Church.&quot; I will be soon transferring my theology articles in my pastor&#039;s blog at www.pastorsblog.mastersfellowship.net. See you around brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ding: Thanks for your comments. I now pastor &#8220;The Master&#8217;s Community Fellowship&#8221; (www.mastersfellowship.net) which is considered a &#8220;Reformed Baptist Church.&#8221; I will be soon transferring my theology articles in my pastor&#8217;s blog at <a href="http://www.pastorsblog.mastersfellowship.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.pastorsblog.mastersfellowship.net</a>. See you around brother.</p>
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		<title>By: Ding d Baptist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ding d Baptist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Zig, im a baptist too belonging to an independent fundamental baptist church and share your opinion re&quot;Jesus is a Baptist&quot; and &quot;Baptist brider&quot;. Our church dont believe in this beliefs and these have been a contentious issue among Bible Baptists primarily, and is of recent in origin. These has never been part of our Baptist forefathers&#039; historic baptist beliefs. Though i beg to disagree on your opinion that the church as sometimes mentioned in the new testament may refer to a &quot;universal&quot; church. The word ekklesia always means a local assembly of saved believers. There is no such thing as a universal church in the new testament though the word church may sometimes refer to a group or more than one local church. The doctrine of universal church came from the catholic church. Another thing is that the church is not the bride of Christ because it is a local assembly but rather all the raptured Christians that have been glorified will be the bride of Christ in the &quot;marriage of the Lamb&quot;. This misunderstanding of the scripture may have led to these erroneous beliefs re: Baptist brider. 

And by the way there are a lot of Baptist churches that don&#039;t believe in &quot;Baptist brider &amp; Jesus is a Baptist&quot; and you may not have to transfer to a non-denominational church. and I pray that what you wrote here will help our Baptist brothers who may sincerely misunderstood the scriptures, and we want to help them because we love them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zig, im a baptist too belonging to an independent fundamental baptist church and share your opinion re&#8221;Jesus is a Baptist&#8221; and &#8220;Baptist brider&#8221;. Our church dont believe in this beliefs and these have been a contentious issue among Bible Baptists primarily, and is of recent in origin. These has never been part of our Baptist forefathers&#8217; historic baptist beliefs. Though i beg to disagree on your opinion that the church as sometimes mentioned in the new testament may refer to a &#8220;universal&#8221; church. The word ekklesia always means a local assembly of saved believers. There is no such thing as a universal church in the new testament though the word church may sometimes refer to a group or more than one local church. The doctrine of universal church came from the catholic church. Another thing is that the church is not the bride of Christ because it is a local assembly but rather all the raptured Christians that have been glorified will be the bride of Christ in the &#8220;marriage of the Lamb&#8221;. This misunderstanding of the scripture may have led to these erroneous beliefs re: Baptist brider. </p>
<p>And by the way there are a lot of Baptist churches that don&#8217;t believe in &#8220;Baptist brider &amp; Jesus is a Baptist&#8221; and you may not have to transfer to a non-denominational church. and I pray that what you wrote here will help our Baptist brothers who may sincerely misunderstood the scriptures, and we want to help them because we love them.</p>
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		<title>By: jun</title>
		<link>http://www.zdiaz.com/2009/09/exposing-doctrinal-errors-part-1-the-jesus-christ-is-a-baptist-and-the-baptist-brider-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-30548</link>
		<dc:creator>jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Zig,

&quot;The earliest known Baptist denomination is known to be the Anabaptist group, which can trace its roots back to the New Testament church which was the church founded by Jesus Christ himself. The group did not exist as such until after the era of the New Testament church which was several decades after John the Baptist died.&quot;

This is not a well-settled historical fact.  The more reliable historical accounts points to the late 16th century as the beginning of the Anabaptist church which sprung as an offshoot of Ulrich Zwingli&#039;s reforms.  They rose to prominence because of their belief that &quot;infant baptism&quot; is a nullity.  Thus, the word &quot;Anabaptist&quot; means &quot;rebaptizer&quot; where people who have been previously baptized as infants are being re-baptized as adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zig,</p>
<p>&#8220;The earliest known Baptist denomination is known to be the Anabaptist group, which can trace its roots back to the New Testament church which was the church founded by Jesus Christ himself. The group did not exist as such until after the era of the New Testament church which was several decades after John the Baptist died.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is not a well-settled historical fact.  The more reliable historical accounts points to the late 16th century as the beginning of the Anabaptist church which sprung as an offshoot of Ulrich Zwingli&#8217;s reforms.  They rose to prominence because of their belief that &#8220;infant baptism&#8221; is a nullity.  Thus, the word &#8220;Anabaptist&#8221; means &#8220;rebaptizer&#8221; where people who have been previously baptized as infants are being re-baptized as adults.</p>
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		<title>By: zigfred</title>
		<link>http://www.zdiaz.com/2009/09/exposing-doctrinal-errors-part-1-the-jesus-christ-is-a-baptist-and-the-baptist-brider-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-15772</link>
		<dc:creator>zigfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jr: My intention is to reach the Baptist brethren who believe in this false doctrine. I can&#039;t reach them if I make it private as I do not know if a visitor is a Baptist or not. Hope you understand brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jr: My intention is to reach the Baptist brethren who believe in this false doctrine. I can&#8217;t reach them if I make it private as I do not know if a visitor is a Baptist or not. Hope you understand brother.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://www.zdiaz.com/2009/09/exposing-doctrinal-errors-part-1-the-jesus-christ-is-a-baptist-and-the-baptist-brider-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-15769</link>
		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this site must be confidential...for Baptist only,
not open to public... not good for testimony of the Churches,
hopefully this site use Log in... to keep privately</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this site must be confidential&#8230;for Baptist only,<br />
not open to public&#8230; not good for testimony of the Churches,<br />
hopefully this site use Log in&#8230; to keep privately</p>
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		<title>By: zigfred</title>
		<link>http://www.zdiaz.com/2009/09/exposing-doctrinal-errors-part-1-the-jesus-christ-is-a-baptist-and-the-baptist-brider-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-9996</link>
		<dc:creator>zigfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aldous: Thanks for reading my post. With regards to your 1st concern, I agree with the Baptist with regards to the doctrine that baptism is not essential for salvation. I will explain it in a post in our church website later on (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tmcf.zdiaz.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.tmcf.zdiaz.com&lt;/a&gt;) This I believe is what the Bible teaches. 

With regards to the &quot;head astor and mother church&quot; I am not sure what you mean by that because most Baptist if not all especially the fundamental Baptist and most independent Baptist churches in fact strongly believe in the local autonomy of the church. (Exempted from this are the Southern Baptist) In fact it is one of the Baptist distinctive (A stands for &quot;Autonomy of the local church&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aldous: Thanks for reading my post. With regards to your 1st concern, I agree with the Baptist with regards to the doctrine that baptism is not essential for salvation. I will explain it in a post in our church website later on (<a href="http://www.tmcf.zdiaz.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tmcf.zdiaz.com</a>) This I believe is what the Bible teaches. </p>
<p>With regards to the &#8220;head astor and mother church&#8221; I am not sure what you mean by that because most Baptist if not all especially the fundamental Baptist and most independent Baptist churches in fact strongly believe in the local autonomy of the church. (Exempted from this are the Southern Baptist) In fact it is one of the Baptist distinctive (A stands for &#8220;Autonomy of the local church&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Aldous</title>
		<link>http://www.zdiaz.com/2009/09/exposing-doctrinal-errors-part-1-the-jesus-christ-is-a-baptist-and-the-baptist-brider-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-8633</link>
		<dc:creator>Aldous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 19:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, you might also want to look at these teachings that was taught to us:

1.  that baptism is not essential for salvation (Acts 2)
2.  that there is a head pastor and a headquarters or mother church (the bible teaches that Christ is the head of the church)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, you might also want to look at these teachings that was taught to us:</p>
<p>1.  that baptism is not essential for salvation (Acts 2)<br />
2.  that there is a head pastor and a headquarters or mother church (the bible teaches that Christ is the head of the church)</p>
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		<title>By: Aldous</title>
		<link>http://www.zdiaz.com/2009/09/exposing-doctrinal-errors-part-1-the-jesus-christ-is-a-baptist-and-the-baptist-brider-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-8632</link>
		<dc:creator>Aldous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 19:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zig, this is really great! This is the reason why I preach in a non-denominational church. Hope there will be changes soon in the baptist church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zig, this is really great! This is the reason why I preach in a non-denominational church. Hope there will be changes soon in the baptist church.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.zdiaz.com/2009/09/exposing-doctrinal-errors-part-1-the-jesus-christ-is-a-baptist-and-the-baptist-brider-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-7475</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maayung hapon nimu... unsa gani  imo religion? Nindot kaayo imo mga exposition oiiii.... 

Salamat pareho ta ug faith.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maayung hapon nimu&#8230; unsa gani  imo religion? Nindot kaayo imo mga exposition oiiii&#8230;. </p>
<p>Salamat pareho ta ug faith&#8230;..</p>
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